[Mla-cds] Licensing for your teaching hospital

[Tobia, Rajia C]

At the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, we have
a situation similar to that described by Mark.  Our main teaching
hospital is a county facility and not owned by the university, although
it is in an adjacent building.  One difference is that our teaching
hospital has its own IT department and its own IP range.  We do not
license electronic products for use by our teaching hospital staff.  We
license for our authorized users which include UTHSCSA faculty, staff,
students, and residents.  We include residents as authorized users
because they are affiliated with a UTHSCSA department for educational
purposes.  Many of our resources are licensed through consortia that
include academic institutions only and not hospitals.  Our licenses
generally cover walk-in library users, so hospital staff can always walk
over to the library and access our full range of resources, but they do
not have remote access or access within the hospital.  Residents are
treated as affiliated users and they have remote access. 
 
Hope this helps.
 
Rajia Tobia 
Associate Library Director for Collection Development 
University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio 
Briscoe Library 
Mail Code 7940 
7703 Floyd Curl Drive 
San Antonio, TX 78229--3900 
Phone: 210/567-2413 
Fax: 210/567-2490 
mailto:tobia at uthscsa.edu 


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From: Judy Rieke [mailto:jrieke at medicine.nodak.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:56 AM
To: Mark Funk
Cc: mla-cds at colldev.mlanet.org
Subject: Re: [Mla-cds] Licensing for your teaching hospital


Here at University of North Dakota (UND) we don't have a teaching
hospital but rely completely on community facilities - hospitals and
clinics.  We do not allow anyone except UND affiliated (students,
faculty, clinical faculty) users access.  We only license for our
building IP range, and our users access resources remotely when they are
outside of our building by going through our proxy server.  They do this
almost seamlessly by virtue of "signing in" to our website and using
resources through it.  We basically license very few products that do
not allow remote access.  We definitely do not allow hospital and staff
of the facilities that we use for teaching to use our resources -- at
least that we know about!   Judy Rieke, University of North Dakota

Mark Funk wrote: 

	CDers-
	
	I know that for many, if not most, medical schools, the teaching

	hospital is part of the same institution, so there should be no 
	problems in making sure that the hospital gets access to the 
	resources that the library purchases.
	
	Here at Weill Cornell, our teaching hospital is a separate 
	institution, although it is physically connected to the medical 
	school, and in fact shares the IP range that the medical school
uses. 
	They get access to our resources.
	
	I know of none of our licenses that even mention the hospital as
a 
	separate entity. Most licenses just mention restriction to 
	"authorized users" affiliated with the Subscribers' location. We
have 
	taken that to mean our hospital people, but not the hospitals 
	affiliated with our hospital. We have been very cautious with
our 
	hospital users, denying them the remote access that our medical 
	school people get.
	
	We are getting pressure to allow remote access for our hospital 
	residents. I'm concerned this may be a Pandora's Box full of a
can of 
	worms. But maybe I'm just too cautious.
	
	Are there any other libraries out there that have a teaching
hospital 
	as a separate institution. How do you interpret licenses? Do you
give 
	your hospital people remote access? Please let me know.
	
	I welcome all comments, even if your situation is different.
Thanks.
	
	Mark
	  

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